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J.D.並非法學博士學位，這是每個美國律師皆知道的事，美國一大堆念J.D.的律師並不會被稱為博士，在美國一個學生唸完學士學位後又再修兩三個學士學位都可以，並非有學士學位再念書就算研究生，也不是有doctor名稱就算博士。122.123.35.121 (留言) 2008年7月24日 (四) 17:11 (UTC)
Thanks for your input. This page in Chinese language corresponds exclusively to the American law degree "Juris Doctor". Of course JD is not 「法學博士」。In the American context, 「法學博士」is JSD, or SJD, which is discussed in another page. I have directed the material related to 「法學博士」 to that page. And there are separate pages on LLM, as well as legal education and law degrees in Mainland China, Hong Kong and Taiwan.
Wikipedia is meant for knowledgeable people in the world to contribute in those areas they specialize in. That principle maximizes the accumulation of human knowledge. Therefore, we should let those with JSD/SJD to edit the "法學博士" page, and those with JD to edit this page, because they are the best people in the know. Those educated in the US, mainland China, Hong Kong or Taiwan, respectively, should also self-consciously limit their contributions to their own area of expertise. Sabotage does not help the accumulation of human knowledge and can only incite resentment and intolerance. This is especially the case as we are students of law and supposed to adhere to nothing but reason.
As for whether JD is a doctorate, enough debates have transpired in the past. Debates on that topic routinely get overheated and quickly go down the road from displeasure to mutual hatred, rather than deeper understanding. It's all about self-serving biases and let's admit that. Wikipedia is about established knowledge and not a place to engage in emotion-charged or even nasty debate.
That said, the commonly accepted perception about what is a JD, at least in the United States, is laid out unequivocally in the first sentence of the English entry of "Juris Doctor": Juris Doctor (abbreviated J.D. or JD, from the Latin, Teacher of Law) is a first professional[2] graduate degree[3] and professional doctorate[4] in law. And there is an entire section dwelling on that topic: "Debates about academic status". It is well-written and adequately buttressed.
Let's not debate without learning what has already been debated in the past. That's just a waste of time. We don't wanna be the Dalai Lama and the CCP either.
How about using the name "學士後法學士" for US J.D. and "學士後醫學士" for US M.D.?
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為何無任何編輯理由退回Jksen的三次不同編輯
@45.8.19.196@45.8.19.226@76.37.148.128: 這三個IP應該都是@USCIS CN你本人吧，請問為何退回我的編輯? 也沒有附上任何理由。有哪邊寫錯或爭議的可以討論，也說過國際教育標準分類法的內容我一直都有附上參考來源，美國JD就國際教育標準分類法就是被區分在碩士等級，直接無視參考來源退回刪掉你不喜歡的立場實在是很不行捏。--Jksen（留言） 2024年8月12日 (一) 13:29 (UTC)
2024年8月13日 (二) 01:11 188.213.202.104
- Express VPN IP 188.213.202.104: 你違反維基百科:不要訴諸法律威脅，只會訴諸法律威脅而不就編輯內容討論出雙方都能接受的結果，只有一昧威脅對方照你的方式做，完全違反維基百科的精神。維基百科也不是讓你宣傳或維護你的利益或立場，請參考維基百科:維基百科不是什麼。
- 另外我說的都是事實，在維基百科上說明事實理所當然，我附上的參考來源檔案也都有寫上這事實，你去打開美國的那個Excel搜尋juris doctor就可以看到，再打開其中一個參考來源PDF檔也會發現在碩士文件裡確實是把美國First-professional degree programmes列在其中，你搜尋就會發現。
- 有疑慮你可以去詢問聯合國教育、科學及文化組織（UNESCO）關於國際教育標準分類法他們為何制定，這都是他們官方網的文件，你可以跟他們說你們官網的文件造成你對我說詞所謂的「學位抹黑行為」，看他們有什麼看法。事實上你用英文跟中文去詢問ChatGPT跟Claude說，美國JD在國際教育標準分類法是哪個等級，都會回答你是碩士等級，連AI都不會出錯，毫無爭議。Jksen（留言） 2024年8月12日 (一) 19:41 (UTC)