维基百科:机器人/申请/King Willan Bot
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Hi, I'd like run the interwiki Bot King Willan Bot here, and get a bot flag for it.
- 状态: 拒绝申请
- Operator: fr:User:King Willan
- Function: interwiki
- Operation: automatic on 3/4 of the day
- Software: standard pywikipediabot framework updated daily from svn to the latest version
- Already has bot flag on:Bot flag on : no:User:King Willan Bot and vo:User:King Willan Bot. I request for others: fr:User:King Willan#Mes bots
Thank you! --King Willan Bot (留言) 2008年2月2日 (六) 12:17 (UTC)
- Hello !
- Some bot owners here might already know me, I am NicDumZ, an experienced French bot owner running DumZiBoT on fr: (see stats), on en:, and on de:.
- After some hesitations on whether I should do this or not, I go on every wiki where this user has requested a flag to comment his request : One could not deny that King Willan is showing good willingness, seems very honest and motivated, and that he could be trusted; Still, on fr:, his home wiki, we have denied his bot flag request. Upon discussion, it turns out that King Willan is a bit young and that he is not experienced at all in interwikis and bot handling :
- When asked about some dubious edits his bot made (e.g. [1] and [2]), he answered (rough translation) Well, the program asked me what to do; I checked the first foreign interwiki, then clicked on the fr: interwiki from the foreign page; Since it didn't bring me back to my originating page, I removed the interwikis. I think that this is showing some serious misunderstanding of the interwiki system, proving that this user is not qualified enough in interwiki handling.
- We explained him that he was mistaken on these particular edits, and why : he answered back that his pywikipedia copy was out of date (he downloaded a 08/2007 snapshot from sourceforge), and that surely the framework had misleaded him and that it wasn't his fault. :s
- He asked on several places technical questions on pywikipedia, proving that he does not know how this framework works, and probably that he does not understand python :
- On the French Village Pump : fr:Wikipédia:Le Bistro/29 janvier 2008#Pywikipedia where he asks how
-start
works - On the flag request page : fr:Wikipédia:Bot/Statut#Bot allez plus vite? (section title is Bot more fast? with a French fault) where he asks how he can speed up his bot (why should he need it to do this ? Sounds to me that he is somewhat in the wrong direction)
- On the French Village Pump : fr:Wikipédia:Le Bistro/29 janvier 2008#Pywikipedia where he asks how
- I strongly believe that he his not able to speak or understand English enough to communicate with other projects, to explain what he did, or simply to understand their policies:
- The technical questions he asked have easy answers in English in the documentation of the framework.
- When I went on his de: and en: requests to comment them, he asked me to translate in French what I wrote (diff: [3])
- Moreover, this diff [4], where he states "The bad version no take this fonction. My version take now this fonction" is quite... significant. :(
- We're trying to see what can be done, on fr:, to teach him to use his tools properly, but for all the reasons stated above, I consider that, as of now, letting him have a botflag on so many projects at once would be very, very treacherous.
- I will not be monitoring this page; Please, let me now on my French talk page if you have any questions, remarks, or if any further discussion goes on here.
- Thanks a lot.
- NicDumZ ~ 2008年2月5日 (二) 14:33 (UTC)
- (+)支持—ffaarr (talk) 2008年2月21日 (四) 03:06 (UTC)
- (+)支持—街燈電箱150號 开箱维修(抢修) 抄表 检验证明 2008年2月21日 (四) 15:31 (UTC)
- (-)反对,(!)意见 如果上面NicDumZ所说的话是真的话,个人认为这个机器人会制造破坏的机会颇高。此外,其在英文和法文版的机器人申请似乎已被拒绝。 --Moonian‧♨一盅两件立即叹‧贡献 主要 全部 2008年2月23日 (六) 12:58 (UTC)
- (-)反对,显然这个申请有问题--Alex S.H. Lin 2008年2月24日 (日) 10:51 (UTC)
- (!)意见我应为我们应该使用英语作为沟通的语言。十分抱歉,我在征得你们同意前把你们的意见翻译成英文。I think we should use English to communicate. Or simple English (do not forget this is the Chinese version while the applicant is speaking well English). The meaning of above suggestions are:"If what you have said is real, the probability of making destruction by the robot is quite high. In addition, the application made in English version and French version of this bot were likely refuse." And, "This application is obviously suspectable."
Sorry for my poor translation and sorry for translating your sugestions without your agreements.Lichunhon (留言) 2008年6月18日 (三) 13:54 (UTC)
- (-)反对,无用处。--Kelvin Kent Oliver (留言) 2010年7月25日 (日) 17:42 (UTC)